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		<title>By: Mental Nurse &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sectioning Detrimental To Self Esteem</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalnurse.org.uk/2005/10/10/better-than-butlins/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Mental Nurse &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Sectioning Detrimental To Self Esteem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2005 17:40:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] My feeling was that being sectioned was better than being left in the Neither Fish Nor Fowl category. [...]&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-171"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('171','Mental Nurse &#38;raquo; Blog Archive &#38;raquo; Sectioning Detrimental To Self Esteem'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] My feeling was that being sectioned was better than being left in the Neither Fish Nor Fowl category. [...]
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		<title>By: loopystudent</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalnurse.org.uk/2005/10/10/better-than-butlins/#comment-132</link>
		<dc:creator>loopystudent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Oct 2005 11:04:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello again,
Enjoying the cynic guides immensely. 
Ummm... why am I posting? 
Oh yes, you said you'd rarely seen the 'emergency' section (Section 4) used and you wanted people with experience of it to post. Well I've been put under a section 4 before now, actually it was almost a year ago. 
The reasoning I'm still not quite sure about apart from they (i.e. crisis psych peeps) wanted to keep me in overnight to make sure I was 'safe' but I was refusing (this was at 9am when I had attended A&#38;E at 2am) and so they decided to section me. Not sure if it was totally legal but I was kept in for 72 hours (well actually 4 days but that's cos the 72 hours ran out on a Sunday and no one gets discharged on Sundays) and then kicked out.
Oh well, such is life.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello again,<br />
Enjoying the cynic guides immensely.<br />
Ummm&#8230; why am I posting?<br />
Oh yes, you said you&#8217;d rarely seen the &#8216;emergency&#8217; section (Section 4) used and you wanted people with experience of it to post. Well I&#8217;ve been put under a section 4 before now, actually it was almost a year ago.<br />
The reasoning I&#8217;m still not quite sure about apart from they (i.e. crisis psych peeps) wanted to keep me in overnight to make sure I was &#8217;safe&#8217; but I was refusing (this was at 9am when I had attended A&amp;E at 2am) and so they decided to section me. Not sure if it was totally legal but I was kept in for 72 hours (well actually 4 days but that&#8217;s cos the 72 hours ran out on a Sunday and no one gets discharged on Sundays) and then kicked out.<br />
Oh well, such is life.<br />
Lis x
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		<title>By: Mental Nurse</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalnurse.org.uk/2005/10/10/better-than-butlins/#comment-131</link>
		<dc:creator>Mental Nurse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not currently. There has not been much movement on the act. Looking at the Scots act may be the way to go. I think it may be a prototype for what they may try to do in England.&lt;p class="top-comments"&gt;Current score: &lt;span class="top-comments-karma" id="karma-131"&gt;0&lt;/span&gt; &lt;small&gt;(to vote for this comment, please visit the site)&lt;/small&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class="comment-remix-meta"&gt;&lt;a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('131','Mental Nurse'); return false;"&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not currently. There has not been much movement on the act. Looking at the Scots act may be the way to go. I think it may be a prototype for what they may try to do in England.
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		<title>By: survivorworker</title>
		<link>http://www.mentalnurse.org.uk/2005/10/10/better-than-butlins/#comment-130</link>
		<dc:creator>survivorworker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i'm enjoying your cynics guides lotsly!  looking forward to further installments.

is a cynics guide to the draft mental health bill in the pipeline?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m enjoying your cynics guides lotsly!  looking forward to further installments.</p>
<p>is a cynics guide to the draft mental health bill in the pipeline?</p>
<p>sw
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