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1:54 pm July 10, 2008
| Mo
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TheShrink said:
In which county?
Err.. maybe the name “Jock” is a clue ;o)
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2:48 pm June 18, 2008
| jock
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Live in uk,52 Cto,Now upto last week trained nurses were used for detained patients ,when i confronted nurse manager,they said that this was a grey area wow bearing in mind that I have worked in Health service for 30 years and have never been ask to escort detained patients…..
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11:49 am June 18, 2008
| Mr Ian
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Well, whilst awaiting an up to date response - I remember doing lots of pt escorts to general hospital when I was in UK.
Tho working at an independent private medium-secure forensic hospital; the laws applied the same to us as anywhere.
I recall that we ensured a qualified nurse remained with the patient - but this was for two reasons:
1. in case of need for intervention
2. to provide qualified support and opinion to the general ward staff
In terms of legal requirement I don’t think there are strict provisions in the Act that mandate the qualification status of an ‘escort’ and all provisions were made on risk assessment.
Of course, anyone detained s41 was automatically considered a high risk - but mostly in terms of ‘consequences’ if anything went wrong and we were asked why ‘only’ a HCA was accompanying.
However, I am sure I recall a time where low risk patients have been chaperoned by HCAs - as this is no different to the application of s17 leave - where unqualified staff might accompany a patient on escorted leave.
However, this was before new amendments and therefore is possibly outdated.
Did you also mean s25 CTO rather than s52?
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11:44 am June 18, 2008
| TheShrink
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In which county? I guess different mental health legislation and codes of practice will give different results.
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8:41 am June 18, 2008
| Mr Ian
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A query from “jock” in the live chat box:
jock : I wonder if anyone could reply to the following question,Can section patients ie 52 cto when transferred to General hospital be looked after by Health care assistant on there own,without a Rmn present,,,,,, I Have Worked in the health service for a number of years and when asked to go over to general wards to look after Informal patients I didnt blink an eyelid,,,though now when I and other health care assistants are asked to transfer and sit with section patients because the Rmn doesnt want to
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August 12, 2008 at 10:59 pm
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Hi I was in the same possition ayear ago. They know who they are looking for. It was the worst interview I had ever given, but I got the job.
They basically want to know what you have to offer. Give you an idea of the job which sounds scary. And you have to sell yourself. Give an idea on how you would deal with different situations, someone being highly depressed. If you saw someone having ago at someone else, how you would cope in a volatile situation.
Staff are very helpful where i work and they don`t mind what you ask know matter how daft it sounds.
good luck